Was I falsely attributing a BIG scene to R’hollor when, in fact, it was my favorite character, Ser Davos of House Seaworth, The Onion Knight, who made it happen?
There is only ONE God, and his Name is Death
And what do we say to Death? NOT TODAY!!!
More accurately, per Lady Brianne, “…the only power of resurrection in the series that has ever been real is the magic in the people who believe in it. R’hllor did not resurrect Beric Dondarrion 6 times, Thoros did. He did it because he believed. R’hhlor did not resurrect Jon Snow, and neither did Melisandre. Davos did. He believed this world still had a purpose in Jon. He never stopped believing. Knowing how GRRM feels about politics and religion, for him to give the power back to the people from the Gods is not such a stretch. There is only 1 God and his name is death. What do we say to the God of Death? Not today.”
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I actually really like this interpretation of events. I always felt like Davos was the one who really NEEDED that to work. He lost his leader. A man born a gambler at heart, throwing his faith to the wind and letting lady fate carry him as she would. his experience sailing at night would have been the building blocks for his belief, unrefined as it was, and Stannis hammered that formless mass into a rigid system of judgement and forgiveness. The onion probably had to let Melisandre open the door for him, and the one being who intimately knew Jon best(ghost, for the subconscious wargings) didn't hurt, but he got word over those quiet black waters. A smuggler would know best where to leave a lantern in the dark, for those all in black, looking for solid ground.
Hahahaha onion wizard 😂
good analysis. this theory is right up George's alley.
life is life, could shireens have payed for snow? is melisandra buying goods with stolen gold without realizing it?
Thoros didn’t believe in gods or himself either the first time, maybe being broken and hopeless is a requirement for resurrection.
If that is the minimum requirement for magic, then it would be much more common especially in a land of constant warring. Besides, magic comes to people who have no notion of magic or was probably even unconscious at the time like Patchface. Sandor also saw the vision when he was so scared and doubtful on the whole magic/Rhllor thing. Maybe there is no God in ASOIAF lore, but the requirement for magic has to be more complicated than that.
i think it was dire wolf he only one that didnt leave
I'm not so into all those theories (yet) but I also thought that Melisandre didn't resurrect Jon but that Davos did it, and i hope this theory about magic is true because it makes the whole universe of got so much better
I thought the EXACT same thing!!
I was on board until I realised – Mel. If she was able to perform miracles/magic through her own will, then she lost the belief in herself to perform these miracles – how does she maintain the glamour she has been shown in show to be using?
Ultimately I don't think it matters either way – I don't think it will be answered in show and I believe GRRM will leave it to the readers interpretation in the books.
I agree that it was Davos who did it, brought Jon back from the dead. I believe that he together with Ghost urged Jon to live, to want to live. Jon's line about seeing nothing but darkness or that great nothingness is our clue that nothing anyone says about "The Gods" is true. It's all pie in the sky wishdom (not a word). But I think in the end it'll all be about whether those in Westeros have that belief and faith in Jon to fight the final fight against the Dead.
I like davos and i like this theory
Very cool theory. I enjoy it a lot.
The Onion Wizard… I like it.
Ehh maybe, though on a side note about magic coming from the dragons, the previous three eyed raven had the sight long before that.
I only watched 2 of his videos and feel i should subscribe
I agree. It was Davos. Fuck the red bitch
I love this theory! I've always believed that magic is a natural element in the Universe of ice and fire and the way it manifests depends on the wielder. I always assumed that that what Thoros said to Melisandre made it possible. He had lost his faith, but when he lost his friend Beric, he prayed to Rhollor "Please". At the very end of Melisandre's ritual and prayer over Jon, she whispers "Please". And my Grandma used to say… "What's the magic word"? That being said, you could very well be right, at least in the TV version of Davos.
Idk it's a cool idea but I don't think the show is that clever. The way he is going to come back in the books is going to be cold as shit!
If this theory were true, Melisandre would have turned into the old woman she is in front of everyone. She clearly didn't lose all her powers since she still appears young and beautiful. I don't see a way around that for this theory…
There is a very good point to this theory, when Jon dies, Melissandre asks something like, "What is on the other side", Jon says, "Nothing".
Maybe, there is nothing there because gods don't really exist. And if gods don't exist, man have the power.
"Old gods, New gods, drowned gods, fire gods, they are all the same"
I don't remember who said this, maybe Sandor Clegane, but this sentence may be true.
This is a compelling case for the existence of magic in the absence of gods. The one issue I have is more with the law of attraction – which would imply that there is a super/preternatural force adhering to the will of the petitioner. I would think it more likely that there is some formula or science involved which grounds it more in the natural reality. But if GRRM practices and believes in Law of Attraction, then I guess it wouldn't be too farfetched for him to be inserting that here.
At the beginning of the video I was like "Nah". Near the middle I was like "He, maybe?". At the end: "Holy shit, yes!!!"
I love this theory, changes a cheap deus ex-machina into a beautiful poetic moment that is vital to the Davos/Melissandre duality story line and all the saga for that matter
Ohhh, this is wonderful to ponder. Davos is my favorite (Ned a very second close) so the idea of a skeptic having power in things he does not understand or care to, and Dany's happy-accident of igniting magic across Westeros and Essos eases my mind of wtf is going on religionwise in this world. This also helps the case for Dany being Azor Ahai, which I'm neutral on who that may actually be cause they have a lot more to lose before they go up against N.K.
but then ef he didnt belive in it the first time how did he do it?
I love this theory. Even though it's already S7, but SOIAF and GoT is always fascinating even if it's been a year since the events happened on the screen.
Ser Davos the Onion Priest. All Hail the mighty Onion God!
How does this theory go with GRR calling Beric a FIre wight
I think the old gods are the only real gods, they interconnections with Bran and magic, but they use a single human to be their mouth piece(Bran), it's never really said if they have an afterlife, and there is something about the heart trees, that you see throughout the books, the old gods don't interfere with Humans like the other gods, but I think they have the power in game of thrones