The truth about Jon Arryn’s death.
WARNING FOR MASSIVE SPOILERS SEASON 4!

This video is mostly for people who have watched season 4 but who have not read the books, and who feel a bit confused about who exactly participated in Jon Arryn’s death and how. His murder, and the false leads about it, made quite a complex plot!

I hope this video will help! =)
You can also find my diagram with everything on it here:
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Credits: All scenes comes from Game of Thrones by HBO.

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41 COMMENTS

  1. Littlefinger's character shows how much GRRM cares about reality. For him, all the other characters are just like the audience and vice versa. We know something and think that we know it all when its not the case. No one really is in control and sometimes because of small things, huge things commemorates. Maybe even Littlefinger was the most dangerous man in Westeros, maybe he set in motion the whole series in some way or other, maybe he was a really great player in the Game of Thrones, maybe he actually had done more than we know. A character so deep, that he really was untrustable by even his aides (LYSA). But his death in S07 was so real because even he didn't see that coming. Sometimes big things die out small. And even being one of the most dangerous man, he could not know how he will die. Though in a dramatical point of view, Little finger should have died with giving up more crucial information (not right before death tho) but that is the whole point of GOT. Oberyn dies so dreadfully even though he was a good guy, and hence in the opposite side of the coin Littlefinger, who was one of the worst-minded (acted awesome by Gillen) characters of GOT dies a simple consented death though unexpected by him. Anyway beautiful video brother.

  2. If littlefinger's motivation was to sow chaos, why wouldn't he just allow John Arryn to live to tell the truth about Cersei and Jaime? That certainly would have caused chaos, and been much less risky than plotting to kill Arryn. Remember, much of why Littlefinger was executed had to do with that whole scheme. Of course, that probably wouldn't have made for as good of a story.

  3. season one was amazing, probably one of the best seasons hands down

    season 1 through 4 are perfect

    too bad seasons, 5, 6, 7 are just okay

    think about it

    season 6, might have had 2/3 PERFECT episodes, but no other episode that seasons is worth rewatching, besides 2-3,

    same with season 5, 🙁

    i miss when GRRM worked on the show

  4. so its taking me til the week before season 7 begin to realize that….lysa and littlefinger started it all and lannisters were innocent….wow…wonder how if bran went back in time and changed all that would it interfere with dany at all. this is all so crazy….im just ready for next sunday 7.16.17

  5. I am not sure the part about Lysa not wanting to be separated from her son is accurate. I remember from the books that both she and her kid were to go to Dragonstone for protection.

  6. it's weird, right? lysa did not want to be included in the war but allowed tyrion to be held in the eyrie. I guess the trial by combat could not be helped since tyrion chose that method, but she further put herself in a problematic position of Tyrion were killed. Than again, other than Jaime, it is unclear if retribution would have taken place. It seems like LF kinda lucked out that Tyrion didn't die there especially considering it would be difficult for him to gain much. Lysa seemingly being his trump card.

  7. Only thing missing from this video is that you dont point out Littlefingers long term plan more clearly. For an example you could also point out that he gives Robin regular doses of sweetsleep to worsen his already frail condition. He wants to become lord of the Vale by marrying the late wife of Jon Arryn who just happens to be in love with him, well played Baelish. Kind of missed some opportunity for elaboration but I understand that you want to keep factual and dont go into any theorizing but I think its fairly obvious why Littlefinger got Jon Arryn killed.

  8. It's interesting how much misdirection the show does over Jon Arryn's death.  The show kicks off with his corpse.
    The whole murder mystery thing is a huge irrelevancy to the overall plot.  At best, it's just a spark.  It doesn't have any grand meaning.
    The only thing that's interesting about it is how much Littlefinger gets out of it.
    RedLetterMedia did a criticism of the convoluted plan of Palpatine in Star Wars' prequels.  This is a situation where the writer is making a character do a lot of things with no grander plan or pattern in mind.  It's simply done to drive the plot for the main characters and for exposition.  It's a lot like Silva's ridiculously elaborate prison break that couldn't have been timed.  It's just done for the camera.
    Speculating on what Littlefinger is planning – he's been shown to be incompetent a number of times.  He's surprised by Sansa saving his life at the Vale trial, asking her why she did it after.  Cersei near cut his throat in a lame attempt at a threat to her.  He genuinely didn't know about Ramsay.  Varys tripped him up with Ros.  The guy isn't really a master planner any more than Stannis is a brilliant war strategist.  The show SAYS he is, but in the plot he clearly isn't.  He's ridiculously bad in the show.
    Littlefinger can't actually see 10 steps ahead.  He can't even see one step ahead.  He didn't plan on Sansa near killing him via Brienne when he arranged a meeting.
    Poisoning Jon Arryn is a logical move because Lysa has always been the card up his sleeve.  He failed to get Cat, the woman he loved, but got Lysa.  He used her, then bumped off her husband to take his place.
    The story lacks for a lot of logical continuity if you think about it.  Sansa and Theon jumping that high up, landing without a broken bone, and being to outrun horses that can follow their footprints in the snow is ridiculous.  The show has happen what it wants to.  There's so many continuity breaks.  You could do a series of logically unbelievable BS in the show.  I don't mean magic happening, but just ridiculous imaginings of how nature works by the writers.
    Littlefinger will conveniently do whatever the plot requires.
    I'll give an example.  He tells Sansa "we musn't let [Cersei] sniff out any trouble".  So he goes to her to get on her good side.  But then he takes the Vale army via Robin's command to go save Sansa.  What was the point?  Why go visit Cersei if she isn't needed and he's just going to openly declare himself for the Starks?
    Because Littlefinger isn't a person.  He's a plot device D&D uses.  There isn't a logical, natural progression of thoughts and actions, but contrivances.
    It's fluff.  Basically.
    Sorry.

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