Is there a Grand Northern Conspiracy to restore the Starks to power? Is there a plot in Winterfell against the Boltons? Is Stoneheart working with Maege Mormont, Galbart Glover, and Howland Reed? Will Jon Snow be King in the North in the books?
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The only Nortnern conspiracy worth mentioning is Qyburn. I'll leave you to find out his debut scene.
Lady Stoneheart would not be working to make Jon King in the North to begin with; Catelyn was against Robb making Jon his heir.
I have a different theory, it's not a conspiracy. See while being honorable makes you open to betrayal, it also inspires true loyalty beyond the grave, betraying a honest and honorable man tends to infuriate to the point of suicidal rage to those who held him in such regard. Ned's honor might have been the death of him, but it will be the savior of his house.
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You say you're talking about the second book, while you're quoting ASOS.
Justed wanted to point that out no hard feelings ya.
A (far fetched) thought about Stannis: It's stressed time and again that Stannis is this honorable unbending man who actually doesn't want to be king, but fights for it, because he believes he is the rightful heir. And because Melisandre kind of convinced him that he is Azor Ahai. If it was to turn out that Jon is both – the rightful heir to the iron throne AND Azor Ahai … is there a chance that Stannis would support him? Because honour and legitimacy and stuff. It doesn't sound like anything a man would do that far into a war, but then … it's Stannis. And he's also in the north, wandering about with an army. And accepting a proven claim on the throne over his own, would be exactly what Renly denied to do.
Show watchers reaction to hearing that in the books Cat is resurrected is always funny.
I love Wyman Manderly. The show did the Northern plotlines a serious injustice.
Even if Catelyn doesn't know about Jon's parentage, it's possible that she would still want to see Rob's will through. At this point, she seems to be driven by her hatred for the Freys and Boltons. Her dislike for Jon might not even matter anymore, as long as that means that Rob is avenged and his kingdom restored.
Theirs been a red wedding, a purple wedding, I think if there's a nother we'd murder it would be called the blue wedding, mabye people will be hung and their faces will turn blue
So much fighting over basically a wasteland.
I have literally read each book probably 6 to 10 times a piece. Thought I understood everything, for the most part. thought I had a good grasp what was what and then I come across things like this that just blow my mind. I had no clue the four snowman were supposed to represent the four Lords in on the conspiracy!
Roose: All my friends are dead, push me to the ed…….
The North: What friends??!!
this is probably my favorite video of yours tbh
What I hate what the show did was that Roose kept warning Ramsay about his actions and that if he acquired a reputation as a mad dog, he'll be treated as mad dog.. Suggesting the northmen will turn on Ramsay on some point or at least they might be plotting against him. However nothing came of this.. Ramsay instead defeated Stannis and then got the support of Umbers..
Like the narrators voice and pace , not annoying!!! Like
im lost
What's your hard evidence that there are no phones in Westeros? Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence, y'know?
so many story holy shit how will the book end and tv show my god there many people and factions it alot of lore
19:30 I hope for humanity I'm the only one who noticed.
> Theon
> ACOK
If you laugh you are as childish as me.
>Catelyn was resurrected in the books
TIME TO GET FUCKING READING, WOW
Another example of bad writing from the show… all this "the north remembers" but hardly anyone joined Jon in taking back winterfell
Is their a curse for when a stark goes south? Roberts rebellion: a father a mother and a son die (rickard Brandon lyanna)
War of 5 kings: Ned goes south (a father) dies. Robb goes south he (a son) dies. Catelyn (a mother
dies)
This season Jon went south… viserion (one of dany's "children" dies)…
Holy crap the books are so behind
Also, at the time Jon is named heir to the Crown of the North isn't he a sworn member of the Night's Watch? He cannot inherit anything. Of course if he really dies and resurected he fulfills his oath and basically can do the same as in the TV series
And as usual; Jon Snow knows nothing.
Watching your channel for the first time. Bridge4 and some of his fans recommended. I am HIGHLY impressed with you. Thank you for doing an amazing job. Waaaaay too many channels on YT are half-assing Game of Thrones. It's nice to come to a channel where the theorist is paying attention.
or a blackfyre
I dont understand the reason of this video, is this only for books fans or for the show? The show will end different than the books?
Thanks in advance
I've watched the show and have only just started reading the books, but wow. The story is so much more advanced than in the show, it's unbelievable.
I legit forgot Sansa was married to Tyrion
Basically no true Grand Northern Conspiracy. More like the United Houses of FUCK HOUSE BOLTON. Gotcha.
In the show I would've liked the Umbers to turn on Ramsay. It seemed too good to be true for Ramsay when Rickon was just delivered to him, I thought that the Umbers were going to trick them at the end – it would have been a better pay off than having the Vale ride in without Sansa telling Jon about them, making more sense in the long run and showing that the North remembers.
What if Stoneheart wants to kill Reed, though?
You've done an excellent job! I would like to hear your thoughts on the Pink Letter!
I've only one perplexity: Barbrey Dustin seems to hate the Stark in general and particularly Ned Stark: why should she join the plot of Manderly? She seems to be loyal to Roose Bolton. Or at least she seems to get along with him more than any other lord.
They are all conspiring of their own accord to make sure that there is always a Stark in Winterfell. They say "there must always a be a Stark in Winterfell" so often it must be linked to some kind of prophecy about the wall or something.
the northern lords would hate a king named tygerian right?
I wonder if George plays Crusader Kings…
Oh my god thank fuck you are a person that backs up what you say with quotes and actual evidence. I have see so many people that just come up with crackpot ideas and don't back it up at all.
I love these video and believed the books are way more rich with story and detail but damn some of your book lovers have a hard one for just shitting on the show and say how it's changed since it deviated from the books but the so called reasons why have been in the show even when it followed the books but because your books are so precious everything else is trash and sloppy and for those who say it's more of a Hollywood approach you do know like the bad guys didn't just always win and good guys lost in real life e who,e point of the books was to show that people die on both sides there's people we like and hate on both and that a man can't get out of a 1 v 20 fight just because he's the main character but that doesn't mean good guys can't win in the end
man only if history lesson was like this..
I understand the show having to cutting this treasure trove of plot points for the for the much shorter and to the point story during season 6, but did they have to kill off Greatjon and the other survivors? It would be so much more interesting if they were alive.
"Howland Reed is the only living survivor of the tower of joy"
…and Pepperidge Farm remembers. These are well put together videos. It's almost like you spend more time thinking about GoT than Martin himself does. Maybe you ARE Martin using a voice changing device. Is Alt-Shift-X really George R.R. Martin? Conspiracy! Seriously, it's amazing how you have all this in your head and can put it all together so quickly. I know this one is five months old and so I'm more referring to the episode reviews.
Fuck yeah man somehow I missed like 10 videos over a few months it's like Christmas
I hate how, in the show, they say (not exactly in those words, but they hint towards it) Stannis is a millitary genius and just losses like a fricking moron to the Boltons. Doesn't make sense to me.
Rickon is a fag