Dark | Theories | Noah Is Bartosz?

Who is Peter Doppler’s mother? Who is Regina’s father? Who is the real father of Helge. It was hinted that Bernd may not be his real one. Also… It would be really logical to assume, that the result of Tronte and Claudia’s affair was the birth of Regina. Again, Helge is in love with Claudia too. We know that she isn’t a fan of his, being a child she disliked him as he was rather dumb and annoying in her opinion, when we see her meeting him while they’re grown ups she seems to just talk to him and nothing more. So it cannot be her who is Peter’s mother… but who slept with Helge? I mean, he is a really weird dude, with hurt and broken mind… how come he has a child and who is or was his wife or love interest. I mean they obviously hint that Claudia had something to do with Tronte and Helge. Thus, if the theory that Bartosch is Noah is correct and Noah was Agnes’s lover, then Tronte is his child. And If it’s the case that Tronte is indeed Regina’s father then Bartosh is a great grandfather to himself. Mindblown. Why is Johnas weirdly looking at the wired fence and the light in ep.1 when they went to the forest to look for the drugs and what does this whole Martha’s de ja vu speech mean, maybe it will really have a pay off later. I could continue further; but I really wouldn’t be surprised if almost all the people in this timeloop were the side effects of time traveling at some point and were not supposed to exist in the first place.

I was bothered about how the hell NOBODY saw the picture of Mikkel in 80s class on the school hallway while Mikkels 2019 lostphoto was posted EVERYWHERE,like seriously.

Noah/Bartosz tells Baartosz about the guy from military sleeping in his home next to his room.. When do you think that happened.. why did Noah narrate the story like it happened just to him and not likely to happen in Bartosz's future??

Would you say that the scars that a few characters have (Future Jonas, Alexander Tiedemann, the future women at the end of the season) are somehow connected? As if the same person did that to them such as Noah. The show does make references to the scars with viewers being able to identify them (the shot of future Jonas's back, the scar across the future women's face) and Jonas's mum saying to Alexander that scars can predict the weather. Alexander's scar comes from a gunshot wound running from the police but it is just strange for the show to have this focus on scars.

Wouldn't Bartosz have to much older if he is noah?

Whens…s2 coming out

whether alexxandra is from future ?
and one thing keeps bugging me
when alexxandra goes to hanna for massage, there is no tattoo on his back
but in one of scenes( i think ep 8 or 9) – we can see the tattoo
what do u think ?

and if as per u machine was indeed built, why then noah is going through time loop again ?

Michael / Mikkel is a Painter. I think the "black goo" is paint.

great video! The Noah/Bartosz character could be one of the headlines of season 2, although I hope so

Can someone explain to me how Martha is Jonas Aunt?

One point that is really easy to miss is that the clock maker is actually Charlottes grandfather. in episode 5 she tells Ulrich that her grandfather was obsessed with the 33 year cycle and the big bang. On the Dark Instagram page we see all related characters connected as a family tree. the clock maker and Charlotte are connected. https://www.instagram.com/darknetflix/

I'm pretty happy there's gonna be a season 2. Also, are you gonna do a review of the new Black Mirror series?

I got to say though… if Noah is Bartosz and there was a nuclear incident in 2019 caused by adult Jonas, then Noah's good health is in contrast to adult Jonas'. Adult Jonas bears torture scars and some scars that look like radiation wounds. If Bartosz lived from 2019 to 2052+, then shouldn't he have some health issues himself? Unless… unless Noah took Bartosz to some safe place off screen before the black hole erupted and protected him from any fallout. Or… or unless the 2019 black hole did not cause any explosion, caused something else, and the 2052 nuclear plant was ruined some time later.

I figured it out few days ago.

Is Noah a future Bartosz like the Stranger is a future Jonas? Yes, I think so, his age fits. And, like you said, it's a nice parallel of two friends turning bitter enemies. The different eye color that many fans mention can be explained/excused by the pragmatic fact that casting is not easy (also teen Jonas and adult Jonas have different eye color, give the producers and actors a break there).
About the black goo, well, Michael had been painting and smudging a lot in his hut using black paint, Jonas mentions that he had gotten ill, so… I think that Michael was pretty much fighting depression the closer to his time of death he went, Jonas had seen him all moody and dirty on some occations, and after the suicide, Jonas had these illusions of his father in black goo. Or… were they illusions? Or was Michael using the caves to come up to different times? I think some times Michael was time travelling, some times he was in Jonas' tormented mind. The last time, when adult Jonas sets off the Tannhaus machine, that Michael is deffinitely an illusion. But the black gooey Michael that teen Jonas sees in the first episode in the forest… that could be a time traveling Michael. .. Err… have I made sense? 😉 😀

Sounds amazing, great video 🙂