Man, Game of Thrones is finally shipping their best and also creepiest couple, Daenerys Targaryen and Jon Snow! Also, there was a bunch of logic-defying stuff that happened in this episode. More so than usual.

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  1. I can't see any replies explaining the difference between the actual "White Walkers", "The Night King" and there "wights". So all the dudes following "The Night King"(TNK) on horses and in armor are like general's and they're known as "White Walkers"(WW), he created them from babie's presumably from crasta's sons or whom ever they could get babie's from. They can turn other people (since in one of the scenes in the s07e06 depicts Jon slaying the WW and all the wights around also keeling over, and them making the observation that if you kill the one who created them, they all die. Like Classic Dracula.) But if you remember in season 6's episode "Hard Home" we see TNK raise hundreds of wights, just by raising his hands, and he didn't actually kill any of them. So from everything we've seen, so far he has this "range" on waking smaller dead creatures such as humans and the like, but it seems to create something sentient or more, capable. He needs contact, and also when he turned the dragon in the end of the episode, maybe it has also to do with how large something is, essentially it's "life force". Anyway what we do know from Grrm is that nothing is black and white, and I believe the WW's and TNK are simply in a game of there own survival that was dependent on receiving new babies to form new WW's which is more like the actual "race" persay, compared to a wight which is more like a mindless zombie, compared to an Ice-magic-man with Super Crazy Ice Blade's and some minor power to also raise wights. with the point being, I think there's going to be some big surprise's next season, as to the origins, and what TNK is actually after, because I can't simply see grrm Making just another Good Vs Evil, the good is handsome and attractive, the Bad is scary and ugly. Just hasn't been his style, and one of the reason's this story has made such a huge impact, atleast in my opinion.

  2. I think they should have ended that episode with them waiting. Spent the next episode expanding on what Euron was doing, going into Arya, Bran, and Sansa's plan, reunited Grey Worm and Misande, having Gendry reunite with Arya, and then show the rescue.

  3. In the army of the dead, zombies who've been dead long enough to have their eyes rot out, regardless of who raised them and when, obviously have no eyes. Everyone else – fresh bodies raised by white walkers as wights, , dead wildlife raised to be wandering booby traps, white walkers themselves, and the Night King: everyone with physical eyes, all have blue eyes.

    If they're on Team Night King and they have any eyes at all, they're blue.

    And Frank Sinatra.

  4. my first reaction for when uncle benjen didn't come with jon was the same as you guys but when i thought about it, it was the right decision because it gave jon time to flee without being followed by the 'zombies', basically sacrificing himself so that jon can get away and it makes sense to me

  5. The end quote, "to change a few minds" is slightly misleading. The full elliptical statement should read, "change a few minds towards what we believe is the truth at this point." Truth is an ever flexing concept, but I applaud your goal of bringing some scientific rigor to cultural thought. It should be somewhere in the mix.

  6. Tom, well done for speaking sense. The story is very near it's end now, so killing off characters central to the story's completion means the story has no conclusion. If you kill Jon or Dany now, then the Night King wins, everyone dies – the end. Is that what we really want to see?

    In the early seasons, there were so many "main" characters, in fact both Jon and Dany (moreso Jon) were sidelined in favour of Ned, Robb, Theon, Catelyn, Arya and even Joffrey. Back then, we didn't know who the main end-game players would be, so the show could misdirect you by building a character up and then knocking them down in shocking fashion. Think Ned in S1 and Robb in S2. But as the seasons progress and the bigger picture of what GoT is actually about starts to take shape, the true main players start to step forward.

    End game is clearly Jon, Dany and co. vs Night King followed by whoever's left vs. Cersei… these characters are going to be at the forefront of the story right until the end. Saying the show isn't as good as it used to be because it doesn't kill off main characters in shocking ways anymore is misunderstanding what the show is doing imo.

  7. I considered Arya handing the dagger to Sansa as saying that 1) she'd never hurt her and 2) sort of pledging her loyalty to Sansa (at least while jon leaves her in charge)

  8. I wonder why the Night's King had his caddy full of Dragon Killing spears nearby. Was he forcing the situation? How aware is he of the outside world? So far he seems like the most competent general. He has the strat, the numbers, the knowledge and now the firepower. By early GoT rules, he should win. Of course he won't, because this became LoTR, but that'd be an ending I'd be okay with. S8 the walkers just steamrolling everyone, and the NK sits on the Iron Throne. The End.

  9. How come no one want's to point out the greatest military blunder battle scene ever depicted? How is it that these war hardened people are somehow oblivious to the concept of cutting of the HEAD of the snake first? So what, her genius plan of attack is to fly in and focus on the TAIL, focusing her most powerful weaponry, essentially equivalent to the destruction capability of modern day air power, on what amounts to a bunch of dead ants, leaving her dragons exposed to a broadside of surface to air missiles, losing one of her dragons? Oh, and then the blunder gets topped of with these idiots leaving a DEAD DRAGON WITH THE FRICKIN' NIGHT KING!!!!! These are giant high flying dragons with giant eyes with outstanding vision. Has anyone ever heard of doing a little recon work? HELLO! When this gets back to high command the shit hits the fan, heads are going to roll, and generals are getting court-martialed. This plan is so whacked it just doesn't HAPPEN!

    This chick has the firepower of a modern day squadron of F-35s at her disposal. Imagine being teleported back to the 12th century with a modern day fighter squadron and someone tries to impress you with this "Army Of The Dead", OOH! The only thing anyone is going to be concerned with is where the hell do you land a jet fighter in the 12th century. So why is any of this even a problem? The only weakness this mighty queen has ever had is 'rules of engagement', one can't of course be an ethical ruler without minimizing collateral damage…but wait! This is the Army Of The Dead marching through a frozen wasteland. NO RULES OF ENGAGEMENT NECESSARY! NO SHIT, RIGHT? This series should have been over the moment she learned about this stupid Night King and his army of rotted out human remains. She already rules the seven kingdoms and she doesn't even know it yet.

  10. Dragon shows up, toasts a bunch of zombies, Night King takes spear from Walker Caddy, takes dragon down without any real obvious though. Perfect "hold my beer, I got this" moment right there.

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