[Game of Thrones] Song of the Seven Heroes (Part 1)

What if the mother is Cercei and the maiden is daenerys

What if all these prophecies are red herrings and in the end none of them will matter?

If you believe the theory that Brandon is somehow through his magic as the three-eyed-raven able to be Brandon the builder who built the wall it would make a lot more sense that he is the smith – not gendry

switch jamie and jon i agree and the maiden is either gilly or brienne because of their pure souls. Jamie is 100%not the father im sorry hes done too much wrong even though hes carried out justice jon is much more of a honorable figure who has given out justice many a times.

This is perfect since tonight in s7 ep5 there are 7 going beyond the wall

Seven Heroes:
Jon Snow
Jorah Mormont
Sandor Clegane
Gendry
Beric Dondarrion
Thoros of Myr
Thormund Giantsbane

Catlyn Made those voodooesque wall hangings for Bran and for Jon Snow. I think their magic has something to do with the story ♥

If this hypothesis is correct (which I highly doubt) the crone would almost certainly be Melisandre, not Tyrion. Maybe Brandon. Otherwise I agree with your picks.

But please consider that there may be different group of heroes, who might overlap but don't have to:

1. Azor Ahai / The prince that was promised:
In addition: these phrases could also refer to two different persons. Jaime? Jon? Daenerys?

2. Champion of the Great Other:
almost surely Brandon (maybe Jon)

3. The three headed dragon:
This may be one or three persons (probably three), but it has to be Dragon riders. So almost surely* Targaryens. Daenerys. Jon. Tyrion? Varys? Gendry?** Rhaegar? If he's still alive, probably not. In the books: Maybe Aegon? But he's probably a false dragon.
* Remember: The blood of old Valyria is not only in the Targaryens.
** House Baratheon has a little Targaryen and therefore Valyrian Blood in them.

Heroes of the seven-faced god:
First of all: Fans came up with this seven heroes thing. There is no basis in the books and no confirmation whatsoever by G.R.R. Martin. So I don't think this really is a thing. The problem is: There are so many characters that if you try to make it fit you can find a possibility. I think we see something which isn't there because we look for it intensily and because we want it to be there.
Nevertheless, if this is despite everything a thing: For all we know these seven heroes could be formed exclusively by "second-row main characters". The prince that was promised, Azor Ahai, the Champion of the Great Other and the three headed dragon don't have to be in there. They have their own roles to play. So maybe no Dany and no Jon Snow in here at all. And we still have enough characters to make it work:
The Father: Jaime? Sam? Ser Davos? Ned? Stannis?
The Mother: Lyanna? Olenna? Sansa? Cersei? Catlyn? Lady Stoneheart (unlikely)?
The Maiden: Brienne? Arya? Sansa? Meera Reed? Theon? Just kiddin' with the last one.
The Crone: Melisandre? Brandon? Sam? Tyrion?
The Warrior: Jaime? Brienne? Arya? Bronn? Jorah?
The Smith: Gendry
The Stranger: Arya? Varys? Littlefinger? Tyrion? Theon?
Family Stark doesn't fit for several reasons. I.e.: Why would the heroes of the seven faced god be mainly followers of the old gods?
The same goes for the reverse seven heroes (persons who have exactly the opposite traits than the seven aspects of the seven-faced god). When we have a pattern in our mind we can fit what we see accordingly even if in reality there is no pattern.. That's hwo human brains work.

Just my 2 cents.

I want to see Jaime's hand catch on fire

Holy $&#%, if there are seven that would be insanely awesome

My friend made a really good prediction about the relationship to religion and magic in this realm. GRRM is an atheist himself so it's possible he might have the gods be disproven in some way, or shown to be fallen or flawed. What if Magic isn't spiritual, but an element like fire, air, earth, etc? Those that are born with it like Melisandre were probably carted off to monasteries and taught religion in order to make sense of the gift and to control it. As we see with the followers of the Lord of Light, they are all incredibly powerful people who are inexplicably lost with no personal moral compass. If the god tells them to do this or that, they do it and inevitably do things that contradict themselves and don't make sense. If Magic is just a reality of the universe that some people have some people don't, then hopefully the ones with the gifts will stop waiting for a voice in their ear, start trusting their own intuition and become forces of nature. Isn't it strange that the characters with the most magical power are the least sure of their purpose and themselves?

love this idea and can totally see these 'gods' in certain characters. maybe not entirely convinced by jaime as the father though, but perhaps his character arch will develop to fit this better in the next season, who knows?

Honestly? Daenerys as the mother? She's one of the most vengeful characters on the show, how on earth could she represent the most merciful of the seven?

seven gods, seven kingdoms, seven heroes

I personally believe the former, the faith of the seven is total BS

I think Davos or maybe Stannis would make more sense as the father, the crone could be stoneheart.

sam tarly – heartsbane – gilly (son) – azor maybe ?

Mother: Dany, Maiden: Brienne, Crone: Mellisandre, Father: Tyrion, Warrior: Jon, Smith: Gendry, Stranger: Arya

I think Jaime, The Hound,and Jorah will be sacrificed or will sacrifice themselves.

There is a recurring theme of 7 against 3 in battles. There were 7 kingdoms facing the 3 heads of the dragon. There were 7 Stark men at the Tower of Joy and 3 Kingsguard. I can't remember the others but I know it's been a common theme.

However, I believe Jaime will offer himself up as a sacrifice to create Lightbringer.

+bridge4. The Maiden dances through the sky,she lives in every lover's sigh., i think the above lines apply to the only one charecter & thats not brienne or sansa. the whole series is about two stories one about paranormal/magic & other about politics in westores. If you segregate these two stories then its easy to predict the future of all charecters.

Wow! Great theory!

A Crone is an old woman. Her femaleness and age is important… arguably more important to her identity than virginity to the maiden. It's the witch of highheart or Lady stoneheart. Old Nan. Even possibly Quaithe.

Can't Nana Tyrell be the Crone? You know, cos a) she's an old woman; b) she's acutely insightful; c) Nana Tyrell's the fucking best

I like this! Very much! It sounds awesome.
I agree about Jaime as father, Dany as mother, Brienne as Maiden (makes sense), Arya as stranger and Tyrion as crone…
However I'm sceptical about Jon and Gendry… And know I don't doubt that Jon would be there… bt he to me also looks a little bit like a smith. So I could also see him as smith. Yeah he's not a literal smith, but that's not necessary. He is however hard working, really dedicated, trying to create chances for the wildling and strengthen the wall – not by building or creating weapons but by putting more men on it. Yeah he also is a fighter and a military leader. So I think both would fit one way or the other. or he's something else entirely.
however I don't agree with Gendry… Not at all. Yes, he's obviously a smith, but I think it would be weird to have a character who's nearly forgotten for books and seasons, and even before never had quite a big role, to make him one of the big heroes, when we have characters like theon, Sansa or Bran out there, with whom we spent more time. It makes more sense to me to make theon one of the heroes, than it would to bring Gendry back just because he fits the description of Smith.

Nice theory but I think GRRM intended the 7 to be like RL modern religions, all community/morality and no magic, compared to the old pagan religions centered on magic

The maiden is Brienne (still a virgin, y'all)….the father should be an actual father (Jaime) –Jon or the Hound is the warrior, Melisandre is the crone….the stranger (who was in book of the stranger?)

That's actually a great theory!!

I can see Brianne being the warrior….it seems besides Danny all those who seek power never get it in the end, it seems to fall in the lap of those who least expect it.

Araya def the stranger!!!-LOL

I completely agree with this one and hope its true

hmmmm. wow.

Widow maker? Overwatch player?

love! All the charachter arcs are going that way. I only chose Jaime coz Stannis 'died'. Stannis/ Jaime, Gendry, Jon, Danny/ Cersei, Brienne, Brann/Tyrion, Arya. If Jon is the PtwP/Azhori Azhai, I hope the hound takes his place. If Brann is the Last Hero, Tyrion takes his place. If Danny is the PtwP/Azhori Azhai, then Cersei…. yes Cersei takes her place.

I've been trying to go d the channel for this lady olenna you spoke of,but every time it just gives me visions about lady olenna

OMG!! I seriously was just saying to Cammy about this but not!! I wish I seen this discussion! I've been working on this putting it All together and ur the closet I've seen Anyone! So here we go. I'm gonna spill it All out at least what I got n my eyes.
The Children of the Forest created the Faith of the Seven.
Read Lyrics to Song of the 7 sang by Samwell to Gilly baby while on way to Wall just before he kills the White Walker. Every line ends and loves the little children.. And so it began. I don't trust the Children of the Forest.
The 7 are are not gods but heros and are all aspects of one Hero.. Jon Snow. I fought about this one but only way it fits. so stay with me.
Every Hero we'll say has been reborn in some way, on some life changing journey, typical hero type story right. Except this isn't a normal story. So we have this web of heros. No wonder we need a spider to keep track.
Father.. Tyrion..hero reborn exile…or Davos.. hero reborn ​from the sea
Mother.. Daenerys hero reborn from fire…or Sansa hero reborn from well pain. a mother's mercy
Warrior… Jamie reborn when lost hand .. I think Sandor also qualify his rebirth is as a Broken Man so possibly he could be the Smith as well not Gendry. I see Sandor in here. Somewhere..
Crone.. Melisandre..reborn when she lost her faith and it​ was restored
Smith.. Gendry.. reborn when he learned he was Robert's son and not just some bastard
Maiden.. Brienne.. reborn the day​she met Jamie she just didn't know it yet. Sorry not Sansa a swordfight is called dancing. it's a trick.
Stranger..Arya.. reborn when her father was murdered.

Now the Song of the Seven is Very important! I think it's instructions for Jon. The last two lines are a repeat of themselves they are..
The Seven gods who made us all are listening if we should call,
So close your eyes you shall not fall they see you little children.
Just close your eyes you shall not fall they see you little children.

Notice​ I have Tyrion as Father also and Dany as Mother also. Those seem as easy as Sansa being the maiden but if we consider the 3 heads of the dragons it takes Tyrion Daenyers​ and Jon as the aspect of 1 and leave the 7 as the heros. Now only bump is over Jamie, Sandor, Gendry… see why not worked out yet… Another part of this is concerning other gods n world helping heros along the way. But too much koolaid for that one tonight kids😂 hope this is got ur brains going cuz this is how mine has been for a while!! I'm not surprised at All my Lady that you have been thinking the same way. 😉

Another great video. So. Are they gonna get together like Voltron? Is GRRM a Voltron fan? Lol. All these new theories making me think. I really starting to like the Jaime as Azor Ahai theory. What about Sam? Is Sam the prince that was promised? Or does Sam figure out that its seven people to form Azor Ahai? SAM MUST DO SOMETHING!!!

Even more tinfoil for ya. what if ASOIAF is part of GRRM's preceeding works, A Thousand worlds stories. Where a recurring characters are the organisation known as the EEC. [Spoilers ahead]These guys go from planet to planet years in advance facilitate optimum living conditions and as such use biological, and ecological weapons. In the last and longest story in that series 'tuf voyaging'. A world is repeatedly hit with disasters, turns out there was a ship in its orbit broken down and was carrying out its last orders. It is entirely possible that history repeats itself as the 'bleeding star' is some kind of agent to bring about longer winters to facilitate certain events. e.g. longer winters and allow for better conditions for the spread of their biological weapons aka the white walkers (in this instance either the EEC sent the obsidian down, or the children are the eec, the occurence of certain frequencys which we ignorant folk call magic'. yeah…im clutching at straws now.

Wow! Thanks for the shout out!
I got the warm fuzzies and stuff!!! 🙂