Game of Thrones|Mysteries, Myths and Motives|More Lies of the Andals

u guys are awsome ! summary to all of your theories so far. I buy em all. even if they are not true they are so good and well explainend that GRRM has a tough job to top that.^^ keep up the good work!

Brilliant!!!!

Especially the Manderley part

Don't get me wrong, I've watched all of yours videos and I like it very much. They are based on research you and you provide solid evidence but you also make assumptions. After watching all of yours videos I got little confused. If there is war to come, who is on which side? You claim that on dark side we have:
1. Andals/maesters/decendents of old Gys
2. Faceless man
3. CotF
4. Warewood trees
5. White walkers/Others
6. Slavers/Wise masters
7. Followers of the Seven and many other religious (including decendents of the First men who worship Old Gods and warewood trees)

Who is on the other side? Who is on the side of good? What god do they follow? How are they organized?

Another great series, Order of the Green Hand! But I'm confused now. If the Faceless Men are in league with the Children, and the Children are in league with the Others–this is my understanding of your Faceless Men series–and the Citadel is in league with the Others as well, why does the Faceless Man have to kill Pate and infiltrate the Citadel in disguise is they all seem to be working with each other?

King's Landing stinks!!!

Funny thing is contrary to popular belief Andals actually haven't conquered that much. Racefortheironthrone has mentioned that in his essays when analyzing the Seven Kingdoms. They only conquered the Vale, Riverlands and Dorne. Stormlands even managed to hold them back on it's own and the Iron Isles assimilated them (yeah, they destroyed the local dynasty but that's nothing in comparison of destroying an entire culture). They only managed to take the South through marriages and the rather welcoming politics of the First Men kings.

I always look forward to new videos from The Order! Can't wait for more!

PS- The small Patreon decrease this month is nothing that either of you did wrong; I just had my fixed income reduced and just had to trim a little bit of spending everywhere =(

Great work as always! I love fully exploring what's down the rabbit hole with you both! And congratulations again on the engagement, because I love how you work as a team and these videos just wouldn't be quite as awesome without the two of you; it's really great that you both take time out of your lives to give us the gift of great ASOIAF content while you balance so much and the show is off the air and we still don't get TWOW out yet!

This whole thing about the Andals' warping of the Citadel and their disgust and hatred for the lore of the Old Men shows a distinct hatred of inquiry and debate. I think what Martin is trying to imply is that dogmatic faith kills scholastic inquiry, and not even dogmatic faith-it's the kind of belief system imposed by a bunch of invaders who don't want people asking questions. In Church history, it's the difference between the Jesuits and the traditionalists. Both are super-devout members of the Catholic Church, but while the Jesuits are eager to debate and delve into the mysteries of the unknown, the traditionalists like the way things are and dislike anyone questioning the status quo-just as they disliked Galileo for mistrusting Aristotelian physics, while the Jesuits were open to talking about heliocentrism until the traditionalists closed the debate(and promptly got the whole Church embarrassed when the heliocentrists turned out to be right).

The Andals even go out of their way to hate the dragons and the Targaryens and conspire against anyone who likes them, though that does seem reasonable considering that the Targaryens were Valyrian foreigners who conquered Andal Westeros, or the fact that dragons cause plenty of damage and the Targaryens had a penchant for incest and madness. Although it's kind of a stretch to believe that they had anything to do with the Long Night or the Others, it's just that the crystal sword could be an extension of the crystal crowns the High Septons wore. But you can be right about that if Martin does take this line of thinking forward………..

It's just that I can't see a faith lasting this long in a world of magic without magics of its own. The Many-Faced God has the Faceless Men, the Red God has its priests and priestesses with miracles, Qarth has warlocks with their own magic powers, and the Old Gods have warging and the powers of the Children of the Forest. Heck, even Catholicism has miracles and exorcists, with the latter getting house calls for some spiritual extermination of demonic house guests. Granted, magic was on a hiatus for some time, but the Faith of the Seven originated in Essos, so at the very least, it should have had some magic powers to compete with all the wizards and warlocks and Red God followers back there before going to Westeros………….

This was fantastic, as usual!

I'm so sick of this anti andal propaganda pushed by the msm!

Idk about the Manderly is Hightower theory because they are devoted to the faith

Am I the only one who pulls over on the highway when I get a notification that a new OOTGH comes out?

it will be hell for me to wait for the next video

Sounds like the rise of Christianity

You should do some research on these religions. The Bloodstone Emperor worshipped an oily black stone and was the founder of the Church of Starry Wisdom. These are of course clear Lovecraft references. R'hllor is another Lovecraft reference. It's probably not an actual eldritch god, but it's cult of followers are clearly based on Cthulhu cults. Their mantra "the night is dark and full of terrors" is from the Lovecraft story "Other Gods". This is similar to the Drowned God who's mantra is also from Lovecraft. The Seven are based on medieval Christianity, which is pretty obvious, but the Stranger specifically may be a reference to the King in Yellow, which the Faceless Men may also be referencing.

So Melisandre is, unknowingly, a priestess for a Lovecraftian god just like the Bloodstone Emperor was. The world book heavily implies that Valyria got its magic from the people of Asshai, which is another dark Lovecraftian reference and the home of Stygai, a direct reference to Cthulhu's R'lyeh.

So if anything, the Valyrians and the Ironborn are descendants of the Bloodstone Emperor. And this fits perfectly with the imagery of House Targaryen and Euron Greyjoy, who both have the colors of bloodstone.

You can't just ignore parts of the world history and use the parts you want to whitewash the groups you like. All the groups did horrible things. The Andals were zealots, like the followers of R'hllor, and they slaughtered countless Children. All the groups are bad, because GRRM writes true-to-life grey characters, which is a concept that doesn't seem to appear in your videos. And the Valyrians were the worst group of all. They achieved the most, at the greatest cost.

Oh, and the Hightowers were definitely descendants of the Great Empire of the Dawn, like the Daynes. Check out the History of Westeros podcast on the Great Empire of the Dawn if you want to know more.

What do you think:
Jaquen joined the prisoners to assassinate one of them, or to find Arya? I've recently seen the theory that Littlefinger had Jaquen as backup plan to off Ned because he knew too much. This would however mean that the meeting with Arya was just a coincidence. I always thought that it had to do with Syro and her Skinchanging abilities. From a logic point of view the prior makes however more sense.

I have always been really suspicious about the official version of the history of Planetos. You say have more to come on this topic and I say bring it.

Well, eversince I became familiar with the basic history of Westeros, I 've always seen the First men > Andals > Targaryens to be a parallelism for the brittons > Anglosaxons (who came from an axe as well) > Normans in Britain. That is why I think that the Andals must have wanted to migrate because of an imminent threat, an invader or something similar.

Do you think it's possible that Serwyn of the mirror shield was actually Ser Wyn as a knight

The Order of the Green Hand The Manderly's descended from Hightowers!!! I have to admit I fall on the Preston Jacobs side of the fence when it comes to the "magic" in ASOIAF really being telepathy and telekinesis hidden very well by a writer who wrote Scifi for DECADES before ASOIAF, but when it comes to lineage you guys are second to none! Keep it up guys I can't wait for the next one…