The Old Powers are Waking Part 2
Is the Winged Wolf really Bran?

Theories and analysis of A Song of Ice and Fire using text evidence and quotes from George RR Martin.

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  1. If Jon truely is Ned's only trueborn child, then there would have been no Stark in Winterfell at the time when the winged snake escaped. I wonder if that's significent..

  2. Your take on Winterfell's destruction is interesting. I am not sure a dragon did that, however. We see that at Harrenhal, the castle walls appear to have been melted with the dragonfire, and while Winterfell is damaged, the walls seem sound, and the Bolton's forces are putting roofs on walls that still stand. Maybe the granite of Winterfell is stronger than the stone at Harrenhal, however, if it was built to withstand such a thing. Ramsay is a mean, cruel and destructive person, so for him to kill all the animals is not hard to imagine. Setting those horses on fire was probably entertaining for him, but it's an interesting idea. Theon's horse. Smiler, burning to death was the thing that started to break him. I just think Winterfell would be described more in the way of Harrenhal if a dragon did the damage, but I shall keep it in mind. Really enjoy the new ideas. Nice video!

    I should clarify and say that I think it's possible a dragon that was in Winterfell escaped the castle, but I don't think it set fire to Winterfell. That might be what Summer seen. I have heard it speculated that it was Drogon, but could he really range that far? Maybe by the time he is missing in ADWD, but not now. The First Keep has gargoyles, which indicates dragon binding, in my mind. I think it was the great crash that Summer heard, and that might be when it escaped.

    I have always interpreted there was an ice dragon at Winterfell, and relate that to the cold, black pond at the foot of the heart tree. It fit's the idea of the icy breath that seems to be a part of the crypts. But it might be dead and never seen again, or it might return. Could a wolf see an ice dragon as having fiery breath, a river of ice fire? Could the heat of the hot springs keep an ice dragon under wraps for thousands of years?

    Fell, or fjell, in old norse is a word for high hill or mountain. I have always liked the simple interpretation for the castle, which we know is built on a series of hills and mounds that were never leveled, and I think GRRM draws inspiration from many languages and we know there are norse myth's at play in this story. A hill of winter, which because of the tunnel's that probably existed before the crypts were built, a place of warm water and heat, was possibly a place to seek refuge in the winter, much as the Wintertown has been in recent winters. People sought shelter from the harsh weather at the Winter hill, or the winter fjell.

    I have theorized that the majority of the Stark kids are skin changers, as well as wargs. The only exception may be Jon, as he has only shown a connection with Ghost, so he maybe only be a warg, but in the future might show the ability to skin change. Arya and Bran have shown us they can warg their direwolves and skin change, Arya with cats, Bran with Hodor and crows, and maybe Sansa, with dogs, though dogs and wolves might fit the warg rule, possibly birds. I think the warg blood is in the Stark line and the skin-changer blood is from Cat's family tree, from the Whent's and/or Lothston's. Cat and Ned's kids have some powerful genes. As much as I can't really stand Cat, I think she and Ned were meant to have those kids, and some powerful magic was ignited.

  3. You guys are awesome!, Quick questions: If Mr. Reed has been with the in crowd since pretty much the beginning, why did he send his kids to help Bran to go north, there seems to be a risky balance in getting Bran to the Raven but in doing so also closer to the Crow. Lmk if this gets addressed in upcoming videos (I am going through the recommended view order)

  4. I have a very good question that I really need answered I actually have about 50 of them but you guys are the smartest and have the best series I've ever seen so I'm going to put it to you like this if the trees resemble the last green Seer who used them or if the face of the last greenseer who look through the tree is the face presented on the outside of the tree and whose face is it in Winterfell tree?

  5. I still think its Bran calling to Jon from the future, which causes him to turn around and look for ghost.
    Before he did turn around there was a gust of wind. Which i think is Bran trying to call to him.

  6. Didn't Bloodraven command and receive secrets from crows?

    I hadn't considered the vein of this video before. I had thought it natural that someone in the tree greenseeing would forget titles and things easily like when Gandalf meets the three hunters outside Fangorn in LotR.

    It could be a manifestation of a previous or future greenseer as well. It may be a child of the forest, Bloodraven, etc. Euron likewise could have been counseled by an ancient and truly metal AF greenseer, 😉.

  7. given GRRM's Affinity for mythology you could also interpret the winged serpent as mix of the migard serpent and fenrir the wolf from north mythology, this also plays in well with the others serving as parallel and the army of the dead guided by loki and hel to fight the aesir in Ragnarok. i think with some digging even more parallels could be made with the starks especially to loki and his motif as a bastard and the staunchness to honor, the worshiping of weirwood trees like the Norse worshiped Yggdrasil, as well as the connection to the physical location being much like early Scandinavia. Im sure with quality of effort you put into your theory and knowledge you could even draw deeper contextual evidence for this surface level connection i have noticed.
    and Thank you for the wonderful content.

  8. man please stop telling us what you are about to talk about in the next 5 seconds, we don't need an introduction at every new point. jesus it annoying af just do one introduction and recap at the start THEN STOP. then just do the video normally

  9. Have we noticed any difference in how people describe the temperature inside Winterfall pre and post snake?
    Are the 'hot springs' still working to heat up winterfell, or did they fly away?

  10. What are your thoughts about Direwolves being greenseers? Ghost has red eyes and unlike the other Direwolves, seems to be able to skinchange Jon to some extent. Like showing Jon that Mel was following him by actually showing her to him.

  11. I'd have to look back into it, but you notice that Cat picks her children that look more like herself over her children that look like Ned? I don't remember a single scene where Cat even talks to Arya, let alone dotes on her. But she totally mentions brushing Sansa's hair every night versus allowing her handmaids to do it. Bran is one of her favorites, as well as Robb, both with Tully hair. But allows Rickon to run wild, absolutely hates Jon. She never enters the godswood save to talk to Ned. Devout to the Seven. Sansa follows this example and only entered the Godswood in KL because she was meeting Dontos and when frightened by the Hound, she sings the prayer of the Seven.
    And those same children that are more Tully, save for Bran, seem to have little to no warging ability. Sansa never once has a wolf dream to our knowledge, or Robb (although without his POV..) Bran does, but I think he's chosen and given this ability. His near death experience and age make him easy to manipulate, but still has Stark blood. Rickon may be too young to manipulate yet, too wild.

    Also, the winged wolf may be Jon, but only if he truly had Targ blood. Able to warg a direwolf and a dragon. Or Aegon even, if he's Rhaegar and Lyanna's boy.

  12. I think that you are wrong about a dragon burning Winterfell. In A Clash of Kings, Ramsay clearly commands his men to, "Save me the Freys and burn the rest. Burn it, burn it all." Also, there was a huge, bright comet in the sky at that time, so the "winged snake whose roar was a river of flame" was probably just the wolf looking up at the comet, as Bran was in Summer at the time.

  13. So Jojen had green dreams, but wasn't a greenseer? I remember Meera saying that Jojen's dream "may" come true, but Jojen says they always do. I thought Meera was dissuading Jojen from believing them because she doesn't want to acknowledge his dream of his own death. Poor Jojen!!!

  14. Hmmm seems like Haggons advise about skin changing and different animals relate to the different houses- Cats are vain and cruel (house lannister/lion), elk and deer were prey…( Robert baratheon was once a strong warrior, but became almost a coward at the end) etc.

  15. Howland took the sign of Jojen's dream and sent both he and Meera forth to Winterfell. But Jojen isn't the three eyed raven (crow) Bran is. Jojen's purpose may be to help bran become the three eyed raven who ultimately helps break the stone chains of the winged wolf. I believe may be a metaphor for Jon snow. In ACOK V it is never specified what kind of wings the wolf has in Jojen's prophetic dream. The picture of fan-art featured in your video shows a (white) wolf with feathered wings making it seem angelic almost. Meera proclaims to Bran that he is the winged wolf probably because that is what her father or brother may have thought. BUT all of this was before any of them (except blood raven) knew that Bran was to become the three eyed raven. So in Jojen's green dream if Bran is the three eyed raven who or what is freeing? I don't think it's literally a dragon hidden in winterfell otherwise what has been eating this whole time? I believe the stone chains are a metaphor of a nearly unbreakable oath/secret that is holding back the winged wolf. A winged wolf that has no feathers instaed it has dragon wings. What if the winged wolf is Jon Snow? Of course that goes with a R+L=J theory and not a N+A=J theory. I'm not claiming to be fan of either theories too heavily i can see arguments that favor both to be honest. I just found this channel last night and i love your videos and theories. This was just one of mine.

  16. "We'll toss the dice however they fall,
    and snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
    then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
    to dance with Jak o' the Shadows." Only hand I know is the band of the red hand 😜

  17. Do you think this is why "there must always be a stark at winterfell"? Because soon as Bran begins to leave and there are no more Starks at Winterfell, the winged snake is seen above.

    Love your videos by the way. I appreciate the time and effort you put into your well thought out theories.

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