Is the Mountain alive or dead? Did Qyburn use magic? Can the Night King take control of him?

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42 COMMENTS

  1. I didn't like how Qyburn looked at the Wight brought to King's Landing. Anyone else? There wasn't fear there it was more a want to create something similar to it. Also am I the only one who thought that the more poetic version of what the archmaester was writing about Westeros following the death of King Robert is going to be called A Song of Ice and Fire? I only ask because my friends considered it a joke line, but after I explained it they saw it too.

  2. George was planning the Mountain's death since the first book, as suggested by Bran's vision. So the whole time that he had Gregor acting horrendously, he knew that Gregor was going to get his in by far the worst death in the books. He he

  3. A "zombie",..is really basically …a meat puppet. They are controlled by the VooDoo or "HuDu", practitioneer that turned the subject into a zombie.
    A FLESH GOLEM however,.."can" be given however much or however little intelligence, memories,..ability to "reason" to a degree. The amount is entirely up to the necromancer who "with arcane magic & Frankenstein style surgeries",..that goes about creating the flesh golem.

  4. I think that he may be descendant of the Children of the forrest and the Moutain is a white walker of some sort. In this season, the maesters around the table were makin fun of another maester who stated that he may be a descendant. I believe that Kaeburn may have Children of the forrest descendant as well

  5. I think he used a Tyrian lookalike head and put it on the mountains body. Dorne requested to have the mountains head sent to them in the books. Also could be a white walkers head. Maybe the one that attacked Lord Commander Mormont in the first book? I have other theories but I think it's a Tyrian lookalike

  6. As I see it, since The Mountain's blood was poisoned by the manticore venom, Qyburn emptied all of his tainted blood and replaced it with a medieval equivalent to Oxycyte synthetic blood, hence his white eyes and skin.

  7. At this point, I think we are talking stone cold necromancy here. In the books at least. In the show..The princes knowledge of poison was near peerless. I think Qyburn drained his poisoned blood, reversed the effects of the poison with some type of crude battery electric, and pumped it back in. The back and forth between altered poisons in his cells has created a type of stasis effect. The Mountain is in a living limbo…

  8. I've been curious as to the links of raising the dead between Qyburn and the Nightking. Assume they both use black magic, albeit Qyburn combines this with alchemy of some sort. (If anyone of you is familiar with Magic: The Gathering, you could view it as a difference in the same way that Liliana and Geralf both raise dead by with different means and with similar but not the same results.)
    I'm curious as to the state of the raised dead differ. It appears to me, from watching the show, that the wights of the Nightking are mindless killing machines, the white walkers are sentient undead who controll the wights, and the Nightking commands rather than controls the white walkers. If we assume that Ser Robert Strong (henceforth SRS) is also a sentient undead, then perhaps the Nightking cannot control him? I've also been pondering two outcomes in story progression concerning Qyburn. One is that, after the white walkers breach the Wall, Qyburn convinces Cercei that they may need an army, strong and fearless, to combat the white walkers and be given the means to create more "soldiers" like SRS by kidnapping, killing and raising denizens of King's Landing – something that might also prove insanely useful in the upcoming war with Daenarys and Jon. Another outcome is that Qyburn still controls SRS and might seize the opportunity to claim the power by killing Cercei now that Jaime is gone. A rather loose thought I base solely on the stereotype of necromancers being true to themselves alone, for whatever reason they may have.

  9. Isn't really easy to kill a white walker giant? If you only need one dragon-glass dagger or tipped spear to kill a white walker, a dead giant should be defeated way easier than a living giant. (R.I.P Wun Weg Wun Dar Wun)

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