Will X-Men: Dark Phoenix Repeat Mistakes of The Last Stand? – SJU

I don't understand why the tease at the end of Apocalypse has to have an immediate payoff. That could just be played off as a nod to the Phoenix Force that won't come to fruition for a while, but it's fine because fanservice and stuff. Instead, the producers think that they have to immediately put that into a movie. That wouldn't be so bad if the storyline didn't involve Jean as an adult. Consider me very reserved.

Dan rant should have his own show segment

#cyborgBeatles

Hacking bugs to turn 'em into robots?? <x'O (#scaryfuture)

They wanted to do it right they should have broken into a 2 part story so you get the first movie with Jean Grey's power growing, maybe add some version of the Hellfire storyline of someone manipulating her mind broke the precarious balance she had to manage her powers. As a crescendo from the first act as innocent person who is getting over her head with her powers until totally losing it in the third act could really work and on the second movie you deal with Shiar Empire, how to solve it side.
I think it is workable as a 2 part film that allows time for relations to develop and shows a gradual change on Phoenix, how her friends and lover still want to find a way to save her. In a 2 hours we will have 40 minutes before she goes full on Supervillain. It will lack the ambiguity necessary for the story to work.

The problem is that they already blew their Dark Phoenix wad by revealing that she is already the Phoenix – so they can't really do the "Jean gets possessed by the Phoenix in space" storyline. Whatver they do, it's going to suck. Imagine… imagine if a writer and director with vision got Marvel's permission to take the story into space and bring in the Starjammers (exactly the same as the Guardians of the Galaxy, ironically), or just replace them Starjammers with the GotG. Jean and her X-Men friends take on the Shi'ar, and it ends in sadness. A trilogy.

This video went way off the rails. Lol

Im so pissed off about X-Men. Why can't it be in space wtf, & im so damn tired of Jennifer L. If its not in space & done correctly im just done because they obviously don't give a shit what fans want.

Jennifer Lawrence is a good actress however Mystique is a bad guy they need to stop trying to turn her good. She was never a X-Man.

Jennifer Lawrence is going to be in it. So it is already ruined.

that's cool about the TWD GAME but will I be able to play it on my droid phone ???

Hey are they gonna have that hellfire club that messes with Jean grey? ??

unfortunately I feel like this movie might be like the latest fantastic four movie…like every time it starts to look good it'll get boring again

remember that crazy MORPH character from the cartoon ? I want him in the movies dammit !

Yes it will… because Fox never learns lessons, and Xmen films have not evolved.

Dan Rant xD

Dark Phoenix is not a movie I'd want to be in any way grounded.

Ant man wasn't cruel…didn't you see that tender moment with Antony?

I hated DOFP cause I waited 20 years to see the Sentinels in the movies and THAT'S what they gave me? just stop Fox, please. there's no connection between Jean and Scott AT ALL in the other movies. it's Jean and Logan in every movie except DOFP cause she wasn't in it and Apocalypse cause he was 90 and she was 16

the word "Grounded" has become a dirty word to comic movie fans

no it won't because it's BRIAN SINGER. c'mon guys he knows what he's doing. you gotta have faith faith faith

Dark Phoenix is for beta-males like Dennis Repky. Time to get some more interesting plots with depth, instead of the same shit over and over again.

Um… SpiderMan Homecoming played it safer than any movie I've ever seen. It was successful.

Actually, the mission for the cyborg beetles is to find survivors on earthquake debris and hard to reach areas. The taking control of the beetles is the creepy and debatable part.

#BaeClinton

They're talking about micro transactions in mobile games and Andy says super Mario run which is one of the few mobile games that doesn't have micro transactions.

Nobody worries aswell about the fact that normally a PRODUCER is DIRECTING now? Isn't there tons of nightmare stories around that? I think that could make it even worse.

iIf fox cuts the run time to 90 minutes or less like they usually have done. I WILL SKIP.

Cyclops was a bad character to begin with

Spencer is talking about the zombiesrun app, absolutely brillant to get and keep you running

Please stop talking about Dan Rants and just let them be.

Logan has exactly 5% of the comicbook it's base of and it's an AMAZING movie. All I saw here is a overdramatic reaction to one phrase.

I think it wasn't tarintino but Frank Miller for whom Rodriguez fought

Fox grounding the Phoniex saga last time failed so if you do please just cancel everything besides Deadpool and use his movies to connect the xmen to the Mcu, we've already seen versions of xmen characters that don't appear to belong in the convoluted Bryan Singer-verse as well as a helicarrier in Deadpool, and in the mcu, we've apparently had Skrulls in the universe this whole time but just didn't know so who's to say we can't have mutants too, it's not impossible to do

Pull a Sony move and share the rights (including the fantastic four) back with Marvel Studios and reboot
Allow all the characters to crossover with each other
Let Feige and his team produce and serve as creative lead while you get the distribution and box office profit
While at the same, allow Feige to use you as their venue for the r rated movies for all the mature marvel characters since that seems to be what you made the most success off of

Some of you will disagree, that's understandable. Call me what you will for still wanting all my favorite characters to be in one collective cinematic universe, these are my thoughts on the subject, if you don't like it, whatever just don't be rude

So are the cyborg bettles the new villens? Look, if you are making a film with the shi'ar it seems more then likely they are talking about grounding the comic lore side of things into the film. Please don't mess this up. The shi'ar exist in space just as the phonex force does. In fact i would argue that Cyclops's experince with that force was much more chaotic then Marvel girls'.

that cyborg beetle stuff sounds like a Pixar movie

I wouldn't have as much of a problem with them doing the Phoenix saga if they committed to splitting the movie up into TWO parts. There needs to be a big chunk of time where she is using her powers for good, eventually turns bad and then the team has to team up and defeat her.

It's already going to be bad. Way worse than Last Stand. Can anyone really imagine Sophie Turner playing Dark Phoenix, let alone the fact they haven't developed any characters. Especially not Jean! I'm expecting totally crap. 💩

Apocalypse already repeated the mistakes of Last Stand.

Simon Kinberg's definition of "grounded" just means cheaper.

the funny thing is ik not many saw this but logan rogue should have been together in the films cause those two just work on so many levels ik they had to do the scott logan jean thing but if i recall no one even liked it and found it boring. in dofp the new timeline logan rogue should have been together not bobby rogue shit again. i feel kinberg has no idea wtf hes doing and just doing whatever.

i agree with the guy in the hat.

I think that the most interesting x-men movies are the stand alone ones. That is what they should have done.

You cant do the Dark Phoenix saga in 2hrs..Look how long it took in the comics to get to the climax.

I have ordered my dark Phoenix soda cup

Dark Phoenix a 3 hour movie about mopey teenagers. So cool

Maybe, maybe not but I'm afraid it will make the same mistakes as Apocalypse by confining the story to one film. Both stories could fill trilogies

SJ you are the best!!